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Like just like as you mentioned, it’s just very limited to just heaven, hell and purgatory. You know, purgatory if you’re Catholic. You know, and so, but there’s just so many different concepts and stuff that I think people, I wanna kind of put on the table and let them start to think about like, oh my gosh, if life continues and we’re not just gonna be completely sanctified and glorified in heaven or whatever and if our consciousness continues the way we are now, then it really matters with what we do now, you know, of how much we will awaken to, you know, love, you know, and to the service of other people.

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Because, you know, when I do speak to people who are materialists, you know, or they just don’t believe in some sort of afterlife beyond the grave, it’s like, they just say, hey, we have one life and I’m happy with this life. You know, that after I die, I’m just gonna go in the grave. And I’m thinking, yeah, that’s great for you because maybe you have a good life.

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But what about those who had short lives? You know, or those who didn’t have goodlives and they grew up in poverty? Yeah, what about all the babies that are born and only live for three minutes? Exactly. Four minutes, an hour. Right.

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Yeah, yeah. So the easiest ones that people can do is just to create, it’s like a mantra, repetition of word, like O-B-E now. Now I’m out of body.

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Or whatever word that you feel resonates with you, O-B-E now is popular. And you saturate your mind and your beingness with that and hold it as your last conscious thought as you’re falling asleep. That’s one of the easiest techniques.

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But like I said, anybody that goes to my website, there’s over 20 techniques on my website that they can download for free. And read them and see which one resonates with you. Everybody, there’s motion techniques, there’s visualization techniques.

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Become the man. Whatever the belief may be. And practice a technique and follow through.

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Whatever it is that resonates with you, whether it be meditation or out-of-body experiences. But find a method that you can do and then know in your heart that you have the ability to obtain the answers for yourself. Good advice, good advice.

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Cool, cool. So what’s next for you? What’s going on with you these days? Well, I’m doing my workshops at the Monroe Institute. I just signed up for five more next year in 2018.

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Okay, nice. I do my OB intensive there and I do Destination Higher Self, which is a preparation for the afterlife workshop. And that’s all on your website? Yes, it’s all on my website.